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#1 cjk2002

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:01 PM


My boys will be 4 next month. Josh has been PT since the summer. Since being PT, I noticed he has the urge to go more often than his brother. I would say about 90% of the time he asks to go, pee will come out.

Now he's having issues with BM's. He can have in upwards of 6-8 a day. I'm not sure if it's constipation or what because he will push and turn red until a little comes out. And by a little, I mean about the size of a marble. Other times it looks like a normal BM.

I started him on probiotics earlier in the year because while he was still in diapers, he would have numerous loose BM's daily.

Last Friday while I was waiting to pick them up from school, he came out crying. He kept saying "I need to poop". The aide said he went to the bathroom 6 times in the 2 1/2 hours of school and nothing came out. When we got home, he sat on the toilet for a good 15 minutes before I finally convinced him to get off the toilet. He did have a BM about 90 minutes later.

His teacher called me yesterday and wanted to let me know what was going on. I guess he also needed to poop on Thursday as well but I was not aware of it. They don't want to prevent him from going, but they are spending a lot of time in the bathroom with him.

About a month ago, I was certain he had a bladder infection, took him to the Dr. and the test was negative, He did have irritation around the head of his penis and she said it was because of urine getting on it. She prescribed an ointment and it cleared up in a week.

I'm not sure what I should do. He is having BM's every day so I guess I can't say he's constipated...right?

I just wish there was a way I could get him to have one or two BM a day verses 6-8 little ones.

He eats a varity of food and will try anything. He also drinks either water or juice (a cup max a day).

And then there is the pee problem. He is always wanting to go and like I mentioned earlier, he does go. There is no infection and the Dr. also did a fasting blood draw and he is not diabetic. All of his other levels were normal as well.

I plan to address this again when they have their 4 year check up in January and we might need to see a specialist.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:31 PM

Now he's having issues with BM's. He can have in upwards of 6-8 a day. I'm not sure if it's constipation or what because he will push and turn red until a little comes out. And by a little, I mean about the size of a marble. Other times it looks like a normal BM.

I'm not sure what I should do. He is having BM's every day so I guess I can't say he's constipated...right?

I just wish there was a way I could get him to have one or two BM a day verses 6-8 little ones.

He eats a varity of food and will try anything. He also drinks either water or juice (a cup max a day).

And then there is the pee problem. He is always wanting to go and like I mentioned earlier, he does go.


As I understand constipation, he has it. He's straining, pooping out hard little poops and going many times a day. If it were me, I would call the doc to get a referral and see if you can get the proper dosage of Miralax from them to make it easier for him until you get in with a gastro and possibly a urologist. :hug:
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:12 PM

Thanks. But the odd thing is he has "normal" poops every day. He usually goes first thing in the morning which is normal, then a few hours later which is smaller and from there on they're small.

I just picked up Pedilax Fiber Gummies and will give those a try. They worked well with my other son who still goes on average, every 3-4 days.

It's just so strange since I don't think he's ever been constipated so this is throwing me for a loop. The only time I remember is when they were newborns and we switched from name brand formula to Target brand.

I just had a lightbulb go off in my head. :yahoo: I've been giving then calcium suppliments for the past 2 months and I just read that one of the side effects is....constipation :woohoo:

I think I'm going to stop them asap and see if that gets him regular again.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 07:38 PM

Sarah has a kidney specialist and he commented that you can still be constipated and bowel movements every day. He said it was like a full bucket. You can take some off the top every day, but the bucket is still full. And full bowels can put pressure on the kidneys and affect things there also.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:37 AM

we switched from name brand formula to Target brand




Haha, us too. But I agree with the constipation thing, either up his fiber or give him Miralax. Why was he taking calcium? You can give him tums instead for calcium.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:22 AM

I suggest Miralax for the poop issue too...that stuff works great! As for having to pee all the time you may want to talk to the pedi about possibly a small bladder or over active, I know there is medication they can take so that his bladder can hold more with out feeling full. How does he do at night?

:hug: poor guy! I am sorry he came out of school crying! awwww.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 11:54 AM

If you don't want to try the miralax (which has worked wonders for my friend that has a son with similar issues and the GI recommended miralax as well) is activia. That stuff will help regulate as well.

After hearing what my friend has gone through, I second the "pooping everyday doesn't mean no constipation". My friends son is 9 and struggles because he withholds. So some comes out everyday but he basically is so backed up he can't catch up. They have done laxatives/enemas (as prescribed by GI) just to get him back to his normal.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 12:11 PM

How does he do at night?


They sleep 11-12 hours and he's dry 99% of the time. The part that is so frustrating is that if he's engaged in something he REALLY likes, he can hold it for 2-3 hours without even asking to go.

I have noticed in situations he's uncomfortable in, his request to go potty increases.

As I was doing more reading on calcium suppliments, another side effect is increased urination. I'm hoping that this too will resolve itself since I stopped them.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 02:36 PM

My DD Sarah has a similar issue that comes and goes. It's somewhat anxiety-related, so it's worse when she's under stress (and then it spirals because she starts to worry about it). But it's also related to constipation -- it got a lot better when we started giving her Miralax every morning. When she's constipated, the full bowel puts pressure on her bladder which then makes her feel like she has to pee constantly.

She still tends to have sporadic urinary/bladder irritation. She goes pee a million times a day and then stresses about it when nothing (or very little) comes out. We generally up her Miralax for a few days, and remind her frequently about wiping after she pees (which she claims to do, but I doubt it). Putting some diaper cream on her urinary area sometimes also helps, but I don't know if the mechanical links between pee & poop are the same for boys!
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